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Apr 30, 2010

Jewish groups: Boycott Ahmadinejad in NYC

 


Jewish groups: Boycott Ahmadinejad in NYC

April 30, 2010

NEW YORK (JTA) -- Jewish groups are calling on U.N. member representatives to walk out in protest when Iran's president speaks next week at the United Nations.

Mahmoud Ahmadenijad's plans to address the U.N. Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty Review Conference on May 3 makes a mockery of the proceedings, Jewish groups said.

"We call on all countries, particularly those that value democracy and freedom, to leave the United Nations hall when Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, rises to speak," the president and executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations said in a statement. "Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability poses a threat to the region and the entire Western world. To have President Ahmadinejad address this review conference makes a mockery of the efforts of many countries to prevent nuclear weapons and nuclear terrorism from becoming the gravest global threats of this century."

The Jewish Community Relations Council of New York issued an action alert urging readers to e-mail U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon at sg@un.org to protest Ahmadenijad's inclusion at the conference.

The World Jewish Congress asked its member communities to contact their government representatives to persuade them to participate in the protest walkout, saying in a statement, "It is dismaying that, once again, the U.N. is allowing the head of a regime, foremost in the sponsorship of terrorism and the abuse of human rights, who defies U.N. resolutions regarding its nuclear ambitions, to appear before the international body."





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A MUST see video....Max Blumenthal at his BEST!!!

 

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PHOTO ESSAY ~~ NEW YORK JEWS TAKE TO THE STREETS IN SUPPORT OF GAZA

 


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Anna said on PHOTO ESSAY ~~ NEW YORK JEWS TAKE TO THE STREETS IN SUPPORT OF GAZA

April 30, 2010 at 14:30

These beautiful people make me so proud to be Jewish – shalom!

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Tikun Olam : Mark 'Muntasir' Halawa, Pimping the Pro-Israel Lecture Circuit

 


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April 29, 2010 10:30 PM

A few months ago I wrote an expose of a "Mark" Halawa, who'd been adopted by the far-right settler group, Aish Hatorah, as their pet Muslim convert to Judaism.  I called him "Aish's Manchurian Muslim."  The profile about him contained elements so far fetched as to be almost laughable, especially that he'd grown up as



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-- Ernst Zündel Speaks Out to Foreign Policy Journal --

 

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Testing the Limits of Freedom of Speech: Ernst Zündel Speaks Out

An exclusive interview with one of Europe's most well-known political prisoners

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/04/30/testing-the-limits-of-freedom-of-speech-ernst-zundel-speaks-out/

by Kourosh Ziabari

April 30, 2010

Ernst Zündel is a German author and historian who has spent seven years of his life behind bars as a result of expressing his controversial viewpoints and opinions. He is a revisionist who has denied the Holocaust as described by most historians. He has been one of the most prominent political prisoners in Europe and has been jailed in three countries on two continents.

After his arrest in the U.S. in 2003, he was deported to Canada, where he was kept in prison as "a threat to the national security" for two years. After deportation to Germany in March 2005, he was convicted and sentenced in 2007 to five additional years of imprisonment on charges of holocaust denial.  He was finally released on March 1, 2010.

This is the first interview Ernst Zundel has given since his release.

Firstly, I would like to extend my congratulations on your recent release. Were you ever mistreated or subject to any type of mental or physical punishment in breach of international conventions?

Ernst Zundel in a courtroom in Mannheim, Germany on November 8,  2005 (Michael Probst/AP)

Ernst Zundel in a courtroom in Mannheim, Germany on November 8, 2005 (Michael Probst/AP)

My entire treatment these past seven years by those arresting me, trying and convicting me, and keeping me in prison has been in brutal breach of international conventions.  I was arrested in broad daylight on American soil by officials of the U.S. government who acted as hit squads for a nefarious lobby. There was no arrest warrant. I was not read my rights. I was whisked away in handcuffs without being allowed to get my wallet, to call my attorney, to be allowed to make my case before an American Immigration Judge or even hug my wife goodbye.

I was incarcerated in six different prisons on two continents in three countries—the USA, Canada, and Germany—without relief of any kind. In effect, I have had 10 percent of my life stolen from me – and for what "crime"? For having "overstayed my U.S. visa"?

Throughout my imprisonment, basic human rights principles were trampled underfoot repeatedly and with impunity. The worst prisons were the Canadian detention centers at Thorold, Ontario and at Toronto West, where I was held for two long years in isolation cells, ice-cold in the winter, no shoes or socks allowed. The electric light in these cells, bright enough to be able to read, was kept on 24 hours a day. Through a glass slot in the door I was checked every 20 minutes, and my activities were meticulously noted by the guards: one sheet for every day.  No dignity, no privacy. My toothbrush was kept in a plastic bin in a hall. I was not allowed to speak to other prisoners. Bed sheets were changed only after three months. No pillows. No chairs. When I wrote to my wife or to my attorneys, I had to sit on a makeshift pile of my court transcripts. No radio, no television, not even an electrical outlet to sharpen my pencils. No ball point pens, only pencil stubs, cut in half with a saw. No spoons, forks, or knives were permitted; only a white plastic spoon with a fork called a "spork" that had to be returned every time at the end of the meal. With very few exceptions when furtive guards showed me some kindness away from the surveillance cameras, I was treated as though I was the worst of criminals. That's Canada for you, where I have lived and worked without a criminal record for more than 40 years.

It was somewhat better, but not much, in the United States. In Germany, it was quite a bit better in terms of the basic necessities, but personal mail was routinely withheld – 1,700 letters for up to five years – even after I forced a court to order that it be given to me. My so-called trial in Mannheim was a political show trial in the Stalinist mode in that my guilt was a foregone conclusion. I requested that exculpatory exhibits be allowed as validation for what I believed and had written and said. No meaningful defense was allowed. I could not put on record any forensic evidence, any historical documents, or even expert witnesses, That very request to be allowed to offer evidence was held to be a new offense of criminal behavior and could have resulted in new criminal charges – as were, in fact, lodged against my lawyers during that very trial who tried to overcome these restrictions.

Along with the rest of EU members, Germany regularly criticizes other countries for violations of free speech and human rights. However, your case demonstrated the emptiness of such claims within Europe. What's your take on that? Is Europe really a utopia of liberty and freedom of speech?

Most European countries have only selected free speech for officially approved and sanctioned views on history. Almost all EU countries have laws in place that restrict freedom of speech under the guise of one fig leaf or other, such as the prevention of racist or neo-Nazi activities. The state decides selectively who is and what is racist.  These laws are hypocritical, in Germany's case superseding even their own Basic Law.

Dissidents are allowed very little opportunity to be read or heard in the mainstream corporate media channels of the West. The control mechanisms of the press are many, often subtle but widely understood and obeyed – fear of loss of jobs, diminished circulation, the withholding of government advertisements etc. There is no longer unrestricted freedom in any Western country, not even in the U.S. with its wonderful Constitution and Amendments such as the Bill of Rights.

Allow me here to point out to your readers the outline of a censorship practice known by its neutral term "rendition", but more honestly defined as political kidnappings to force the silencing of dissident speech or alternate thoughts.  Renditions in the West are ever more frequently practiced not only against alleged "terrorist suspects" but against ordinary political activists and writers whose viewpoints are frowned upon by such outfits as AIPAC and similar Zionist lobby and interest groups, B'nai Brith, the Canadian Jewish Congress etc.

In order to spell out what I can only describe to you in broad strokes, I'd like to briefly shed light on the period preceding my arrest in the U.S. and Canada, the conniving and the similarity in other cases like mine, where an innocuous or alleged infraction is used as a fig leaf to silence a political opponent.

Viet Dinh, a Georgetown University law professor and director of their Asian Law and Policy Studies Program who helped craft the Patriot Act, put it succinctly, as reported in an American publication called Wired that deals with freedom of speech on the net. That interview reads:

Wired News: An estimated 5,000 people have been subjected to detention since 9/11. Of those, only five — three noncitizens and two citizens — were charged with terrorism-related crimes and one was convicted. How do we justify such broad-sweeping legislation that has resulted in very few terrorist-related convictions?

Dinh: I've heard the 5,000 number. The official numbers released from the Department of Justice indicate approximately 500 persons have been charged with immigration violations and have been deported who have been of interest to the 9/11 investigation.

It may well be that a number of citizens were not charged with terrorism-related crimes, but they need not be. Where the department has suspected people of terrorism, it will prosecute those persons for other violations of law, rather than wait for a terrorist conspiracy to fully develop and risk the potential that that conspiracy will be missed and thereby sacrificing innocent American lives in the process.

This is exactly what happened to me. The initial reason given was an alleged immigration infraction – namely a "visa overstay". I was no terrorist; I was a dissident writer. My political detractors knew perfectly well that I was in America legally, awaiting adjustment of status due to my marriage to an American citizen. I was in Immigration Adjustment of Status proceedings, meticulously following all the prerequisite steps. I was living openly in a rural area in Tennessee and was listed by address in the local telephone book. The U.S. government had given me a Social Security number, a work permit, a document that allowed me to leave the country and return unmolested. I had undergone and passed an FBI check and a health clearance.  The only last step missing was a personal interview by an immigration official to ascertain a valid marriage to my American citizen wife.

We had been notified in writing that this interview could take as long as three years, and that no status report would be given. We were patiently waiting for that last step, a routine interview with an immigration official. Our immigration attorney had requested such an interview in writing – twice!  Under oath, he testified that he had written those letters.  These letters have mysteriously disappeared from our immigration file.  When I was arrested, it was claimed that I had negligently "missed a hearing" which gave them grounds for an arrest due to a visa overstay. In other words, a simple bureaucratic loophole was found or fabricated that has cost me seven years of my life.

What happened to me in the context of a deliberate state policy of deception has also happened to others.  Similar ruses via false accusations were used in cases like Germar Rudolf, likefwise married to an American citizen, El Masri of Germany, Maher Arar of Canada, Gerd Honsik of Spain, Siegfried Verbeke of Belgium, David Irving, and now Bishop Williamson of England, to name only a few individuals who were caught between the grind stones of a criminal policy possible only under the Patriot Act in the U.S. and similar legal instruments in other countries. Embedded in that background of a widespread covert policy and practice to force political conformity, my case makes eminent sense. We are no longer dealing with an aberration. These extrajudicial renditions give 9/11 and the Patriot Act a new light as a global policy instrument of brutal censorship of unpopular thinkers and writers.

The thrust of a prestigious publication such as yours would normally deal with the policies of foreign governments, renditions, kidnappings, and incarcerations not only of foreign enemies but, as in the case of Vanunu, an Israeli-born- and-raised atomic scientist. He was no neo-Nazi, no racist, no Holocaust Denier, yet he was relentlessly pursued by the Mossad and ultimately kidnapped and jailed for 18 years.

The patterns of the breaking of international law and conventions, the use of false identities, and the brazen practice of breaking and entering by spy and intelligence agencies, etc. – these criminal activities are daily in the news. This sets the stage and makes my case a logical progression of an old, established policy, with this one difference: we are no longer talking about hunting and kidnapping alleged "Nazi war criminals" like Eichmann or stone-throwing Palestinians or even "Arab terrorists", but instead the targeting of writers and other political dissidents in Western countries calling themselves "democracies".

My story does not even end there. In my case, my "Holocaust Denier" profile was convenient, but passé. It was not even, as is so commonly and falsely claimed, "Denial of the Holocaust" or even more bizarre, my "visa overstay"!  I was told what actually happened by a friend of ours with high-level UN connections. In his own words: "It was the Blue Booklet that did it! That's when it was decided at the very highest level to take you out for good!"

Here is what happened, briefly: In the early months post-9/11 my wife, an avid Internetter, discovered a compelling research document entitled Stranger than Fiction: An Independent Investigation of 9/11 and the War on Terrorism by Anonymous, 11-11-2. She gave it to me over breakfast. I read it, found it interesting, and ran a few copies off on my printer for people on my mailing list. I did not write that lavishly footnoted paper. I did not research it. I merely copied it.  Somebody must have concluded that I, with my background of thorough forensic investigations in other areas, showed more than ordinary interest in 9/11 as a potential political false flag common in intelligence agency operations!

During my trial in Mannheim, ostensibly for "Holocaust Denial", portions of my monthly newsletter, where I mentioned this booklet and the 9/11 topic, were referenced by the prosecution as criminal offenses. Only after it became clear that I welcomed the opportunity to have my attorneys present forensic evidence of a potential 9/11 cover-up were those portions of the accusation against me hastily dropped, and my trial became a "Holocaust Denial" show trial in the traditional Stalinist mode, "… accuse wildly but don't allow a defense!"

As we later found out through various freedom of information requests in various countries, there was in place for years a deliberate, convoluted plan to arrest and detain me under false pretenses so as to take me out and put me behind bars.

I mention this only as an overarching, logical example as to how diabolically clever my political opponents are in using the accusation of "Holocaust Denial" and persecution of Holocaust Revisionists as arrows in their arsenal of weaponry to shore up, consolidate, and protect their deceptively acquired power and influence.

What's the reality behind Holocaust? Didn't it happen at all? What about people such as Elie Wiesel, Thomas Blatt, Wladyslaw Bartoszewski and Leopold Engleitner who are Holocaust survivors and describe their own accounts of those painful days, when they personally witnessed the heart-rending demise of their parents in concentration camps and bone-crushing machines. How should we resolve these contradictions?

I will not answer this question.  I would risk five more years in jail if I answered these questions honestly and truthfully. However, in the age of the Internet, others less known than I am find ways to simplify a painful, multifaceted problem, as the cartoon below makes plain:

"Prevent Holocaust: BOMB IRAN" by Carlos Latuff

"Prevent Holocaust: BOMB IRAN" by Carlos Latuff

Many people of other countries have come to the categorical conclusion that the Western world is a beacon of liberty and unrestricted freedom of speech. But it sometimes seems that the reality is something else, and that people can be easily prosecuted merely for publishing views that are disliked. The booklet you published, Did Six Million Really Die?, is an example. What do you think?

Here is just one more example of what I already outlined above: We have faxes and other documents that prove on official embassy letterhead that the much vaunted and propagandized U.S. Judiciary has run interference for these kidnappers and renditioners via behind-the-scenes ex parte communication, thus engaging in a cover-up and whitewash worse than the ones practiced by those the U.S. government always blames for human rights violations in their hypocritical press campaigns, like against China in Tibet, Lukashenko in Belarus, Putin in Moscow and, of course, Iran during the recent so-called Green Revolution.

Many Zionist websites have introduced you as a white supremacist. Is that a fair characterization?

This claim is a convenient character assassination technique. I have never been a white supremacist and have stated so for decades, publicly, in countless interviews, newsletters, speeches, broadcasts, etc. It is my opponents' modus operandi to broad-brush complex issues by politically expedient demonization.

You're opposed to the regime of Israel because of its discriminatory and atrocious approach against the nation of Palestine. You consider yourself a pacifist who advocates stability and peace; aren't these beliefs incompatible with your viewpoint regarding Hitler, who is internationally considered to be a notorious dictator and relentless killer? How can your peace-seeking stance come together with your approval of Hitler?

I cannot answer this question due to legal restraints.  An honest and complete answer would land me in jail as a re-offender very quickly. Implicit in your question is the toxic image of me that my detractors would like you to have.  To be called a Nazi is worse than being called a leper. For decades I have been on the receiving end of just such a targeted character assassination campaign. I have been jailed many times not for advocating an ideology but for expressing a dissident, alternative viewpoint on many topics, including Adolf Hitler's role in history.  Revisionism is not an ideology.  It is merely a scientific method of re-examining historical events and of trying to understand the movers and shakers who made history a footnote to their personalities.

Let me answer your question this way:  I have always abhorred any kind of violence in the pursuit of political goals.  By anyone! Politically, I was and am a pacifist, much in the Gandhi style. I advocate a sober, neutral look at history, including the period known as the Third Reich. The peoples of the world, regardless of what system of government they live under, owe it to themselves to emancipate themselves of the simplistic images of propaganda and deceit posing as history.

On May 1995, your Toronto residence was the target of an arson attack which resulted in $400,000 worth of damage. A few days later, some of your extremist opponents were caught trying to break into your property. Again a few days later, you received a parcel bomb which the Toronto police detonated. Have you ever tried to lodge a complaint against them? Have they ever been lawfully sentenced?

This is the flip side of some of the questions above. While I have never advocated or engaged in violence, egregious acts of violence have been repeatedly practiced on me, of which the political kidnapping in 2003 was merely the latest. As to the fire and the bomb, no, nothing was ever resolved. The police apprehended the bomb builders and senders, but the charges laid were stayed. There seems to have been no political will at the highest levels of the Canadian government. There was no political coin to be garnered by prosecuting Jewish arsonists, who even confessed to the deed.

Do you differentiate between the Zionists  and Jews as the followers of a divine, monotheistic religion?

Yes, the two are totally different. Some Orthodox Jews who are united against Zionism, such as the Neturei Karta, believe that also. They know the godfathers of Communism and Zionism followed identical policies. The guiding spirit behind the two systems is the same. Neturei Karta rabbis attended the 2006 Teheran Conference sponsored by your President in an attempt to distance themselves from what they consider to be a dangerous atheist clique in the pursuit of illegal politics of conquest of which they want no part.

The mainstream corporate media, while having already vilified you, remained silent about your release. What do you think about this? Are you going to continue your ideological path or would you prefer to keep a low profile and forget about the intellectual activities?

Ironically, that was exactly what I intended to do when I moved to Tennessee and married Ingrid; keeping a low profile and turning to private endeavors such as my love for art and music.  I felt that my revisionist outreach was finished, concluded to my inner satisfaction. Let others read both sides and then judge for themselves. All the arguments, all the information needed on the Holocaust is out there, on the Internet, in tens of thousands of websites, all for the taking. How often do you have to dig up an archeological site to find yet one more bone, yet one more implicating shard? My wife likes to say that you don't have to eat a camel to know what a cutlet tastes like. I was quite ready to retire and satisfy my creative needs and desires. I could leave the political mopping-up activities for others to complete. But could my political opponents bring themselves, as rational people might have, to likewise call it quits? No; that is simply not in their nature.

As you point out so cogently, a powerful vilification campaign is still going full blast. It keeps my name in the media for people to decide for themselves who I am. Upon my release, my wife has collected thousands and thousands of letters from readers, only three of which were negative! Not a bad record, of the millions of dollars spent and millions of words dispersed in an attempt to paint me as as a devil with horns.

Let me ask you – would your prestigious publication have cared to interview me if you thought that I deserved the label of Evil Incarnate?

[Editor's note: The views and beliefs of Ernst Zundel are his own, and not those of Foreign Policy Journal. It is the policy of FPJ to uphold the principle of freedom of speech, which means freedom to say things that others may find despicable. It is otherwise a meaningless principle. It is also the position of FPJ that both sides to a story deserve to be heard. It's up to readers to draw their own conclusions and make their own judgments.]

cid:image004.gif@01CAE7F9.C3B2FA40Kourosh Ziabari is an Iranian media correspondent, freelance journalist and the author of Book 7+1. He is a contributing writer for websites and magazines in the Netherlands, Canada, Italy, Hong Kong, Bulgaria, South Korea, Belgium, Germany, the U.K. and the U.S. He is a member of Stony Brook University Publications' editorial team and Media Left magazine's board of editors, as well as a contributing editor for Finland's Award-winning Ovi Magazine. As a young Iranian journalist, he has been interviewed and quoted by several mainstream mediums, including BBC World Service, PBS Media Shift, the Media Line network, Deutsch Financial Times, L.A. Times and Sky News. He is a contributing writer of Tehran Times newspaper. His articles and interviews have been translated into numerous languages, including Spanish, Italian, German and Arabic. Contact him at kourosh@foreignpolicyjournal.com. Read more articles by Kourosh Ziabari.

 




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Apr 29, 2010

[shamireaders] More responses to Lasha Darkmoon

 


More responses to Lasha Darkmoon's Goodbye, America

And to other matters

 

From Martin Webster, England

I seem to have lost the criticism of Lasha Darkmoon's "Goodbye, America" article by John Spritzler, and your (Ken's) reply to Spritzler. Sorry to trouble you, but I would be most grateful if you please send me those two particular texts.

{From Shamir: The texts are on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shamireaders/message/1705 }

My opinion of Darkmoon's article, especially part 2, is that it was a long gush of emotion, not strongly embedded in rationality; indeed, it bordered on hysteria. It was (if I dare say it in these "politically correct" days) characteristic of a certain kind of female
-- to be more precise: a kind of emotionally self-indulgent thinking which is characteristic of some females. I cannot imagine a male writing in such a way.

Part 2 of her essay was, especially in its concluding passages, was simply a howl of anguish against the findings of science, especially the vistas opened up by Charles Darwin, which have done so much to dispel religious faiths and the God idea.

Darkmoon clearly feels an emotional anguish at having her belief in a comforting, loving Father-God taken away. She asserts (I think hysterically) that this loss of religious faith has undermined any basis for human morality and decent conduct and that we are all, therefore, sliding into the "Satanist" lunacy of Aleister Crowley.

This is an absurd thesis which crumbles upon the slightest examination and reflection. What evidence is there that humankind is any more or less prone to evil now that it was 50, 500 or 5,000 years ago? What evidence is there that societies based on faith in a God, or more particularly Christian societies, are less prone to evil than contemporary secular societies or the heathen societies of pre-Christian era?

Treating one's fellow human beings in a decent way, even sometimes to the point of individual self-sacrifice, is prompted -- whether we realise it or not -- by enlightened self/group-interest. God-believers attribute such conduct to a divinely-inspired code ("morality") which would not otherwise exist. More likely it is but an impulsive strategy for individual and/or group survival acquired through the accumulated experience of endless ages of evolution

It is a form of behaviour which is not peculiar to human beings. It is manifested by most if not all mammals and many other lesser species of animal, none of whom have the slightest concept of "God".

Enlightened self-interest manifested by decent conduct is balanced, of course, by a competing selfishness, but selfishness is also a tool in the survival locker.

When one or other of these impulses, which are hard-wired within our DNA, get out of balance in relation to the prevailing external circumstances in which we have to survive and socialise, then we have dysfunctional human beings and/or dysfunctional societies.

It is the excessive selfishness of the Jews, for example, who have created a culture predicated on their "God-given right" to predate on other human groups and destroy their cultures that has generated the phenomenon which the Jews designate as "anti-semitism". On a more individual level, predatory conduct is simply characterised as "crime".

As to other aspects of Darkmoon essay, I did not like her technique of attributing "quotes" to individuals, which if true, would be dynamite; but which are then admitted to be invented quotes created to illustrate those persons' likely thoughts.

That is an acceptable literary flourish in a fictional work, but it is not a proper way to conduct a serious argument on any topic. It undermines the reader's willing to trust ANY quote produced. Speculative mind reading may be part of the ritual of an obscure religious sect -- Spiritualist "mediums" purport to perform the trick -- but it is hardly a basis for rational exegesis of real events.

I note that Darkmoon is described as "an academic". In what discipline, I wonder?

Sincerely,

Martin Webster.

 

From Gordon Arnaut

 

This must be a joke, right? I think this was the same writer who joked about making soup out of his rooster for waking him up early one morning?

 

Anyway, perhaps Ms. Darkmoon should do a bit of studying on the history of lynching in the US. Lynching was perfectly legal in many jurisdictions of the South right up until the 1930s. What is really gruesome is how public these spectacles were. The lynching would be announced ahead of time in the local newspaper (often as a front-page story) and greeting cards would be printed and sold afterwards, oftentimes depicting a photo of the hanged and mutilated victim.

 

A few years ago a New York gallery held an exhibit of these gruesome lynching postcards. The New York Times ran an excellent story and review of the show. Victims would literally be torn to pieces by the mob, trying to get hold of a piece of flesh, a tuft of hair, clothing, finger or whatever as a gruesome trophy.

 

These postcards would be sent along to those who could not be there. "Oh what a time was had by all. Wish you could have been there. Enjoy the postcard."

 

This important history of the US is nowhere to be seen. Why is it not taught in schools, along with other important historical truths, such as the genocide of the native peoples? That speaks volumes about the national character of the US.

 

Regards,

 

Gordon.

 

From Ronald Knarr

 

Dr. Lasha Darkmoon, I read your piece today on Shamir's e-mail. I'm in complete agreement and was aware of most of what you wrote. The only thing I would comment on is your promotion of the despair you disparage. A solution must be written in your conclusion or else you are truly promoting what you don't like.

For me I would at least tell people not to give in to despair. God is not dead-patient but not dead. Urge the living of a moral life to the best of one's ability in the face of the terror we are now living in. Pray that our living God will remember us and be our great help. Without prayer we are lost. I know of no one who prays who does not have hope, and without hope there is nothing left but despair and then our enemies do win.

God bless you for your efforts. Good fruit will bear good.

Ronald Knarr

 

From Mitch Medina

 

Aww, c'mon guys.  Everyone who grew up white in pre-Giuliani New York City knew perfectly well that if you got hassled, it was going to be by black kids.  This did not stop me from both being active in the Civil Rights movement in the 60's and 70's, and moving to another subway car if I didn't like the racial balance in the one in which I found myself.

 

Thank God, those days are over.  This is because America worked very hard to try to remediate the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow for 50 years -- and managed.  I was personally victimized by pro-black and anti-Jewish quotas in the colleges of my choice as a high school graduate -- but that did not stop me from supporting affirmative action.

 

The stereotyping of groups based on the misdeeds of individuals within them is, was and always will be contemptible.  This is true even if bad actors are statistically over-represented in a specific population.

 

"I have a dream -- that one day, our children will be judged, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

 

If there were a Martin Luther King to be found anywhere in Israel/Palestine, the problems of that troubled land, of which I am a dual citizen, would be finished within a generation. 

 

 

P.S. Sorry, Adam.  I find nothing useful in Part 2 of Darkmoon's article.  Your gentle reproof is admirable.  But Lasha is nuts.  Some of my best friends are non-white?  Maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy, but this kind of thing -- it was already disreputable when I was a teenager. 

 

Faithfully,

 

Mitch

 

From Margit Alm, Australia

 

A comment for Dr. Lasha Darkmoon:

 

Hello Dasha -

You said in your post you want criticism.  I can only say what a bewildering and confusing two-pieces writing you have presented.

 

I am just reading a book by the English philosopher A.C. Grayling ("Thinking of Answers - Questions in the philosophy over everyday life").   Under his essay 'Enlightenment' he quotes Kant and Kant's definition of enlightenment.   Kant wrote:  "Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed immaturity...."  

 

In my view, your articles did not reflect the opinion of an enlightened person.

 

Best wishes

Margit Alm, Melbourne, Australia

 

From John Wheat Gibson, Texas

I am in complete agreement that Lasha Moon demonstrates considerable
historical insight. I also agree that her descent into racism discredits
even her plainly true observations and overwhelms her analysis with a
disgusting stench. There is a certain logic to saying "the Jews" are
responsible for Zionism, just as there is a certain logic in saying "the
white people" are responsible for slavery, lynching, segregation, and the
continuing impoverishment of black North Americans. That logic, however,
like virtually all generalizations about human beings, is pernicious because
it dehumanizes the actual members of the group criticized and diverts
attention from the economic roots of racism to a reified notion of race as
the source of group consciousness.

But my tenant farmer white grandfather
opposed the Ku Klux Klan and the institutions that murdered and oppressed
black people in Texas after the Civil War. Therefore I beg writers who
would defend justice to avoid stupid racist generalizations about "the Jews"
or "the white people," etc. What we should condemn, and condemn with clear
language, is Jewish supremacism, white supremacism, and all the other racist
doctrines that keep us from recognizing our common humanity and our common
material interests.

My only disagreement is with John's suggestion that "the US military, which
until further notice is not under the command of the Mossad." There is
simply too much evidence to the contrary. John might as well say that the
spider in which the wasp lays her eggs, so that the spider then spins a web
for
the wasp larvae's cocoons, is not under the command of the wasp. Saying
a priori that << Neither the Defense Department nor the Justice Department
were controlled on 9/11 by Israeli agents>> it simply an empirically
unfounded statement of ideology that totally ignores the history of the
entire executive branch of the U.S. government, at least since the
assassination of John Kennedy.

 

As for the crimes - Gimme a break.  Nobody on Shamir's list is going to make apologies for the
horrible crimes Ms. Darkmoon describes, any more than we make apologies for
the same crimes by Zionists against the people of Palestine.  But to suggest
that Netanyahu's scam to drain the U.S. is motivated by racial animosity to
white people is absurd.  Nobody is whiter than Netanyahu.

But if we are going to accept the idea that race war is inevitable, then we
are in no position to criticize the Zionists, the Nazis, or any other
"master race" that claims the right to exterminate the rest of us.

I agree with Tom that there are an abundance of gelatinous white liberals
who ignore atrocities committed by black people for fear of the same
libelous accusations of racism they receive if they condemn the Zionist
Holocaust against Palestine.  But cowards are cowards, regardless of their
skin color.

John Wheat Gibson

 

From Jim Dean

 

Israel, There is a big split in the military on this and the Intel people. Those who know what a disaster it would be I think will leak what would be needed to try to stop it. What they are most concerned about is a nasty black flag operation to use as a trigger. They are afraid the Israeli elements would do it.

 

Guys on the inside know where a lot of skeletons are buried on the big guys. They have learned that it is better to move before a rigged attacked as afterwards the public is too rattled to read the tea leaves any more, even with an instructor.  

 

Here is Gordon Duff's latest. We are all scared to death of a dirty bomb trigger.   Jim Dean

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/04/24/gordon-duff-stage-being-set-for-dirty-bomb-false-flag/

 

 

 

 

From Hal Womack

 

Hello Ish,

Thanks for running my reply. I should have unpacked JAPE as "Jewish-American _Planetary_ Empire" rather than the way previously given (the underlines in this case are one-off disposable).

Maybe I will take up soon John's (or Elias Davidsson) attempt to exculpate Aerial Shaboom re Jewish lightning.

Looks like Iran tops the crises list currently. The following thriller (a) wears rather well on that point. You might wish IFOT or In the Fullness of Time to review it as part of a general evaluation of the spy genre in contemporary culture? I refer to (a) HARD RAIN (first published in Australia in 2008) by David Rollins, as previously mentioned to you in a circular.

The noticeable difference between Jewish aka the High Cabal's relation to Obama as contrasted to previously to SonnaBush merits discussion, eh?

More time, Hal

 

From Lille Singh, Delhi – New York

 

Salaams Adam Bhai……………..perhaps all your outraged commentators should delve into history as in actual events not fabricated propaganda.  The US amongst other continents was never white nor christian as in the current fanatical usage of the term.  How come there is no outrage at Africans, N & S Americas being controlled by alien beliefs and entities, is there total amnesia?  extraordinary how there is no correlation between facts and delusions.

Tolerance is vanishing, affinities are being ignored,  we are all human beings before being labelled into neat little geographical/theological terms.  The term itself is nonsensical - what is multiculture? - if people refuse to think we cannot communicate ergo all we have is expanding discord. All the artificial colonial borders and alphabet controls which regulate the globe should be deleted,  we need to continue to evolve rather than be pawns of various demented agendas

I have zero patience with people who call themselves scholars and intellectuals yet their actual knowledge is minimal since it is so narrowly defined rather one should say stifled,  ask them to travel and open up their minds instead.

 

 

 

 

From Lasha Darkmoon

 

Dear Mr Shamir,

 

I am not happy with this "White" issue thing. Never have been. I take all your criticisms on board. My ideology is basically similar to yours. I often visit Toronto, a multicultural city. My friends there are of all nationalities. So I am not a racist.

 

I genuinely do believe it's too late to go back to the past. Ployglot, multicolored communities — maybe this is the future. White Utopias? I can't really see them working. Well, Mr Shamir, you are a Christian, and you know that comment of St Paul's about "seeing through a glass darkly."  Many of the writers I am reading nowadays on the sites I frequent are concerned with race and "Whiteness" in a somewhat obsessive way that I do not share. These are not my own obsessions. And yet, these people feel beleagured and frightened — that they're "losing their country", their jobs, their culture, their traditional values. Their very religion, Mr Shamir — the Christianity you hold so dear — they see it being destroyed in America by organized Jewry's control of Hollywood, the mass media, and the porn industry which is largely in Jewish hands. So they would seem to have valid grounds for concern. There is much talk nowadays of "violent revolutions" and "military coups". When hope dies, men get desperate...

 

Almost every day I am in touch with my dear friend 'J', a Jewish American Princess, and so I get a different perspective from her on all these matters.  However much I may rage against "organized Jewry" in my articles, J knows I don't hate Jews. No way.  My close friendship with her precludes any such possibility. 

 

What I'd like you to do, Mr Shamir, is to publish my future articles on your site in spite of your strong disagreement with me on this multicultural issue. Take the risk.  And then feel free on your site to point out my various errors. You have "Shamir Readers". Let these clever and well-informed commentators feel free to tear me to pieces if they wish. How else can we find truth and wisdom, dear Mr Shamir, unless we engage in free dialogue?

 

Your sincere admirer,

 

Lasha Darkmoon

 

Part 2 of my latest article "Goodbye, America!" maybe reads like a collage in places; this is because Kevin MacDonald was forced to make extensive cuts. Once the connecting bits were removed, it was inevitable that a collage-like effect should be created. The second link below is a blog by KMD which explains why he felt it necessary to make these cuts. An interesting discussion can be found in the Comments column here —this has attracted many comments already.  

Sincere best wishes.

Lasha.

http://theoccidentalobserver.net/

http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=1647

 

 

Re: American self-hatred by Ken Freeland

 

From Michael Smith

 

The discussion between Ken Freeland and Blagovesta Doncheva is interesting, but the premise beneath it is flawed.

U.S. public support for imperial wars is probably at an all-time low.  A mobilization of the country such as occurred in WWII is inconceivable today, and not because the Pentagon wouldn't like to see it.

Formal education and moral intelligence have little to do with one another.  In the Vietnam years, the college educated supported the Indochina slaughter much more than did working class Americans without such credentials, with the honorable exception of student protest leaders, a small percentage of the university educated.  And it is not hard to understand why:  working class Americans disproportionately suffered the consequences of that war (and every war for that matter), so their moral judgment was correspondingly sharper.  Intellectuals habitually can't see the moral forest for the trees.

Today, U.S. support for war is extremely shallow.  With control of information, short blitzkrieg-like assaults can achieve the "rally around the flag" phenomenon for a while, but extended imperial wars face steady erosion of public support almost as a matter of course.

Protest can still be effective, but not if the underlying assumption is that the people who are reluctant to join the protest are intellectually deficient.  Also, we have to face the fact that the 1960s generation - billed as the ultimate protest generation - obviously failed to achieve the cultural revolution it so glibly talked about. We should therefore expect that many people have concluded that protest doesn't work. 

In short, the "ignorant" majority is smarter than we take ourselves to be.

Michael Smith

 

From Gordon Arnaut

 

Dear Ken,

If I may jump in yet again with a quick comment. (And then I will go back to being quiet, promise).

 

Blagovesta makes some very good points. Her reaction to the helicopter crew in Baghdad is a gut reaction I think a lot of people have had. What kind of monsters are these? Such coldblooded ease in committing such a horrible atrocity is truly a jolt to one's sensibilities. The flat, even tone of voice is the thing that sticks with me the most, echoing in my mind still. 

 

The question that naturally follows is, "What kind of system produces such people, such killing automatons?"

 

I think that is what she is trying to answer. And I think she has touched on some very good points. Obviously education and indoctrination play an important role. I find Americans the most indoctrinated people imaginable -- knee-jerk when it comes to shibboleths like the "free market," and other such touchstones of the American religion.

 

Another aspect is the militarization of society. This is a more recent phenomenon that happened after Vietnam. This is also something that is spreading like a virus, especially here in Canada. Not far from my home there is a "Highway of Heroes," in honor of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan.

 

Never mind that these "heroes" spend their time in Afghanistan stepping on the throats of local peasants and wildly spraying machine gun fire in all directions as they thunder through donkey villages at 80 mph in their armored carrier convoys. And then they go back to their air-conditioned base, where they have Burger King, Pizza Hut and a hockey rink (a miniature suburbia). While the Afghan peasants are left to pick up the pieces (and twisted and broken bodies).

 

This militarization of society fills the media. The soldiers are heroes, the police are heroes, the firefighters are heroes. Everyone in a uniform is now a hero. We love heros. Heros R' us.

 

This is all part of what I call the "religion" of imperialist capitalism, whose purpose is to fill the void where the human spirit once lived -- sucked out by the dehumanizing system in which we live. We have all been reduced to worker ants, nothing more. We are just a consumer whose only purpose is to provide a number on balance sheet for some giant bank and other giant corporations. 

 

So we have been given all kinds of things to worship. The Hollywood "stars," the military and police, the mighty business men, and even the politicians themselves. 

 

Blagovesta is right. There is no way to fight this. The game is over. Orwell saw this coming decades ago, where we are all just worker ants, going about our allotted chores and having no control whatsoever over any aspect of our existence.

 

The masses have tuned out and they do not care. They know there is no way out. They go about their lives weighed down by the pressure of being debt serfs. They know that homelessness is just a couple of missed paychecks away. 

 

So they keep their heads down, toil away at Walmart or McDonald's and come home to watch mind-numbing garbage on TV. They cheer the carnage that they see in Iraq and Afghanistan the same way the Roman mob filled the Coliseum to watch the Gladiators and the Lions.

 

The vapidity of daily life, the vacuum in people's hearts and souls is the cause. I agree that if you give a young man a good education he will have a good chance of fulfilling his potential. Finding a passion and interest that will sustain him and give his life meaning, and perhaps a life's work along the way. 

 

But who is going to give people such a gift? The corporate fascist state? How could they spread around billions on a superior education for all, when they need those billions to round out their Forbes 400 list?

 

Regards,

 

Gordon Arnaut

Oro-Medonte, Ontario.

 

From John Bayldon

 

Strange thing is- and I really wish it wasn't so- I wish I could blame US TV or the Jews but I cannot for the fact that Americans have been known for this juvenile attitude and barbarity from at least 1917- my second uncles told of it in WW1- as Brit soldier shot in the lung by Germans and trying to crawl (5 miles) was approached by two American troops as 'Hey Kraut you wanna die?' ' No give him a gut shot.' bang! my uncle Tom was then shot in the thigh- he continued crawling until  Brit troops found him and took him to hospital- he lived to age 85 with only one lung- they built them tough back then!

Great uncle Fred- (Brit army) shot in the shoulder and legs by crazed  Yanks and left for dead was captured by the Germans and treated with utmost care by German medics in a German hospital. also lived to age 82.

Americans act and have always acted like 12-16 year old kids- I honestly believe that in a sane world Americans would, alone in the world, not be allowed guns (possibly under Scandinavian supervision) since they have shown themselves incapable of he necessary maturity to possess and use weapons safely.

Americans- saturated in their juvenile culture can never see themselves as the world sees them- histerical fat, gun-godding cowardly juveniles- as one British office put it to some high ranking US officers-'Have you an adult I could speak with please?'

JB

 

 

Lies and Wars – Danger of Iran War

 

From Robert Leverant, California

Leo and Gordon,

I've very much appreciated your analysis, insights and views. I'd like to add a thought or two to the discussion.

What is being normalized in these lies and threats, heralded throughout the world by the media, is the normalization of the use of nuclear weapons. 

Most likely, the attack will not be by Israel but by the U.S. whose first and last display of nuclear weapons to and in the world was on an innocent populations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The use of nuclear weapons was not tactically necessary (the war was already won) but was a message to Soviet Russia. 

Though the nuclear weapons in this case allegedly will only be (mere) bunker busters targeting underground nuclear facilities, this will be accompanied by the U.S. bombing "10,000 targets to totally destroy Iran in a few hours." (Dan Plesch, in a speech in London reported in Haaretz on March 25th) The obliteration of Iran will be message to the world, "We, the U.S. and Israel, are the top dogs, and will totally destroy you and your population and infrastructure if you stand in our way. We prefer this to diplomacy. We are that insane."

Robert 

 

From Mitch Medina, New York

 

No, I think the U.S. Defense Department is acting in American interests, which include not having a nuclear-armed Iran become a regional superpower in the Middle East.

 

Israel is not a conventional threat to any state in the Middle East except the Palestinians (who, of course, don't have a state).  Iran is a conventional threat to every state in the region, and with nuclear weapons, would basically be a hegemonic power in its general neighborhood, in which a goodly proportion of the world's oil happens to be situated.

 

There is an essential difference between the Israeli nuclear deterrent, and potential Iranian nuclear weapons.  Israeli nuclear weapons can only be deployed under some kind of Masada or Osirak scenario.  But the threat of deployment of a potential Iranian nuclear force can be used to make any conventional aggression irresistible, to install puppet governments in all of the smaller states of the region, and in general, to turn any Iranian "offer" into one which "can't be refused", in the words of Don Corleone.

 

It is the existence of the Iranian nuclear threat which allows the Netanyahu government to essentially give the finger to the Obama administration, which, in the abstract, would like very much to rein in Israel in some way.

 

If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would assert that Mossad installed Ahmedinejad, to provide cover for its Greater Israel ambitions.  That proposition is no more preposterous than the one asserted by Mr. Gibson in his post of the Porter article, which is very old news in the first place.

 

Faithfully,

 

Mitch Medina

 



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